Jalen Hurts knows the numbers everyone talks about: 131 passing yards, 5.3 yards per attempt, 21 attempts, six passing first downs, seven attempts over 10+ air yards, one attempt over 25+ air yards. He's not oblivious.

On the latest episode of the “Scoop City” podcast, we touched on a point that Chase has been making for a while now: Jalen Hurts might be a good quarterback, but he isn’t throwing like one right now. The partial transcript below has been edited for clarity. The full episode is available now in The “Scoop City” podcast feed.

The Jalen Hurts skeptics are out in full force as the Philadelphia Eagles host the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday in the NFC divisional-round matchup, three wins away from winning a Super Bowl. What’s behind criticism this time? A lot of what has plagued the Eagles quarterback over the past two seasons: His ability to win a game based on his passing.